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                        If the heads-up categories are the champagne of slot car drag racing, then
                        Competition Eliminator is the vegetable soup of slot car drag racing.  A hearty,
                        stick to the bones, kind of category.  Champagne is great but you can't live on it,
                        you need substance to fill the void and a healthy Competition Eliminator
                        program is just that.  However, Competition Eliminator is so different that no
                        announcer will try to fully explain the details of this eliminator over a microphone.  
                        Therefore, this feature is meant to answer the questions you want to know about
                        SCCEC Competition Eliminator but were too afraid to ask.

                        Potentially the most diverse and damn-right wicked class in sportsman drag
                        racing, no category features more variety than Competition Eliminator.  The
                        motor combinations are just as diverse as the vehicles, from open C-can
                        motors to spec Super 16Ds.  Most cars are classified using weight, body style
                        and motor combinations.  

                        Imagine, if you will, dragsters, funny cars, fuel altereds, factory experimentals,
                        altereds, street roadsters, coupes, sedans, front-engine nostalgia dragsters,
                        sport compacts, imports, and trucks racing together in more than 50 classes.  
                        Although Indexes apply, the main advantage is the “out-the-back-door”, first to
                        the finish line racing!  And you don't have to have a AA/FC budget to do it.  
                        Each class is assigned an index based on what a well-built car should run, and
                        races are handicapped according to those indexes.  There are no break-outs
                        and cars are built with as much horsepower as possible within the current rules.  

                        Sound like your cup of tea?  Then let’s race!!!



                        What kind of cars can run in Comp Eliminator?
                        Loosely speaking, any car can find a home in Comp Eliminator.  There are
                        restrictions on motor, weight and body combinations; full details are available in
                        the current SCCEC rulebook.  If you want to see if your race car would be legal
                        to race in Comp, look at the classes available and find a category that your car
                        fits into.  If you are still unsure, contactinfo@socalcompeliminator.com with
                        questions.

                        What class will my Mountain Motor Pro Stock (MM/PS) fit into?
                        SCCEC Comp Eliminator has been designed so most preexisting cars can fit
                        into at least one class with minimal effort and cost.  In particular, A/Altered (A/A)
                        has been designed to fit all MM/PS cars with the simple addition of five (5)
                        grams (A/A runs at 125 grams).  Depending on the body style, some MM/PS
                        cars may also fit into A/Sport Compact (A/SC); check the SCCEC Accepted
                        Body List for specific body styles.  Some MM/PS cars may also fit into other
                        classes with minimal changes (ie. B/A, C/A, D/A, A/PM, B/PM, all Modified
                        classes).

                        What starting system does Comp Eliminator use?
                        Comp Eliminator uses a sportsman (0.500) tree.  For eliminations, the
                        sportsman ladder is used, where the top half of the field is matched against the
                        lower half (i.e. for a 32 car field, 1 vs. 16, 2 vs. 17, 3 vs. 18 etc)

                        How were/are Indexes established for the original/new classes?
                        The original Indexes were established  based on what similar combinations
                        might run (precedent).  Using the MM/PS example, a well-built MM/PS runs
                        about 0.810 on a 1/4 mile, TrikTrax timing system.  Since a class-legal MM/PS
                        is basically an A/A minus five grams, the Index was set at 0.870, figuring a well-
                        built A/A should be able to run 0.820 (-0.050).

                        If no precedent had been established to base an Index from, the following
                        factors were used to set the Indexes: motor power, chassis design (ie. inline vs.
                        sidewinder), weight and aerodynamics of the body.

                        Track owners/race directors can set approximate Indexes specific for their track
                        length and timing system based on these factors.  Once a race is held, the
                        “stiffer” Indexes can be adjusted for future races.  Reasonably “soft” Indexes will
                        be adjusted by the racecars themselves via permanent CIC adjustments.  The
                        SCCEC would be happy to post Indexes from different track lengths and timing
                        system on its website.  To post the Indexes on the SCCEC site, or for help
                        establishing Indexes, send an E-mail toinfo@socalcompeliminator.com.

                        If Comp Eliminator runs on a sportsman (0.500) tree using Indexes to
                        handicap the start, is there a breakout?

                        No, there is no breakout in Comp Eliminator; the first car to the finish line wins.  
                        Each class is assigned an Index based on what a well-built car should run, and
                        races are handicapped according to those Indexes.  Comp Eliminator cars are
                        built with as much horsepower as possible within the current rules to run as far
                        under their respective Index as possible.  A well-built car should run at least
                        50-thousands of a second under its respective Index (ie. 0.950 on a 1.000
                        Index).

                        I have both kit based model cars, and vacuformed styrene bodied cars
                        in my box. Which ones can I run in Comp?
                        Both! Vacuformed styrene bodies are legal in the following classes: Altereds (center steer),
                        Econo Altereds (center steer), BB/Pro Mod, B/Pro Mod, Sport Compact, Gas Dragster,
                        Econo Dragster, Altered Truck, Modified, Xtreme Comp, Nostalgia Dragster, Street
                        Roadster, and Fuel Altereds. 

                        If there is no breakout, what is to stop me from constantly breaking the
                        Index?

                        During competition, the Competition Index Control (CIC) is active.  By running
                        more than 50-thousandths of a second (0.050) quicker than your Index, your
                        Index in the following round will be lowered to reflect this.

                        How does the Competition Index Control (CIC) work?
                        CIC attempts to regulate run-away Index situations to make racing more
                        competitive.  Ultimately, the effect of the CIC should be to limit quicker cars to
                        running no more than 50-thousandths under the class Index.  CICs are in effect
                        only during eliminations.  Should a car win a round and run more than
                        50-thousandths under its class Index, that car’s Index in the following round will
                        be adjusted by the amount the car exceeded 0.050 in the previous round.

                        Example: A C/EA wins the first round and runs 0.949 on the 1.005 C/EA Index
                        (-0.056).  When that car comes to the starting line for the second round, its
                        Index will have been lowered by 6-thousandths (0.056 minus 0.050 = 0.006) to
                        a 0.999.  Assuming the car runs another 0.949 in the second round, the CIC will
                        have been effective in restricting its performance to -0.050.  CICs affects only
                        that car, not any other C/EA in competition during the current event.

                        How does the CIC keep me going quicker than the index?
                        By continuing to lower the Index, eventually there will be a point at which the
                        Index has been pushed so low that it difficult to qualify well (if even at all) and
                        win rounds.  Usually, this is a big enough incentive to keep racers within 0.050
                        of the Index.  Generally, you will find during eliminations, where CIC hits and
                        permanent Index adjustments apply, racers tend to aim no more than 0.050
                        under their Index, to avoid carrying a CIC penalty into the next round (or worse,
                        a permanent Index adjustment).

                        If I “bomb” my index during eliminations, how does that affect other
                        cars of the same class?

                        It doesn’t have any effect on other cars during that same event.  However, any
                        car running 60-under or more during eliminations, in addition to taking a large
                        CIC hit for the following round, will cause the respective Index to be
                        permanently adjusted following the event, affecting all cars that choose to enter
                        that respective class.  The breakdown for permanent Index adjustments is as
                        follows:

                        Runs 0.060 - 0.069 under the Index – permanent Index adjustment of 0.005
                        Runs 0.070 - 0.079 under the Index – permanent Index adjustment of 0.010
                        Runs more than 0.080 under the Index – permanent Index adjustment of 0.015

                        Permanent Index adjustments, like CIC hits, are not considered during
                        qualifying, losing runs or races featuring two similar class cars (ie. B/A vs. B/A).

                        What happens when two cars in the same class meet during
                        eliminations?

                        Regardless of any CIC penalties being carried by either car from previous
                        rounds, a heads-up race will occur when two similar class cars meet; CICs and
                        permanent Index adjustments are not considered in these races  This provides
                        an added competitive edge between racers in the same class, and pleases
                        racers who enjoy heads-up racing.  

                        How does qualifying work?
                        Qualifying is ordered by the best ET relative to the class Index.  The car running
                        furthest under its respective Index receives the number one qualifying position,
                        continuing to the car furthest from its Index.  To see the qualifying order from the
                        Comp Collision @ the Park, click here.

                        Why are the Indexes inputted into the computer one-tenth of a second
                        (0.100) quicker than the actual Index?

                        Since there is no breakout in Comp Eliminator, inputting the actual Indexes into
                        the computer system would yield breakouts when cars run under their Index.  
                        Like bracket racing, the handicapped start is a necessity…however, unlike
                        brackets, the car reaching the finish line first is declared winner, regardless of
                        ET or Index.  The system the SCCEC uses to combat this is to enter the
                        Indexes into the computer system as one-tenth (0.100) of a second quicker.  
                        This allows for a handicapped start reflecting the class Indexes without showing
                        a breakout for the either car at the finish line, giving the win light to the car
                        reaching the finish line first (note: this assumes the winning car doesn’t run
                        more than 0.100 under the index, in which case, it should obvious to the race
                        director which car reached the finish line first).

                        Example: A D/SR (1.050 Index) and a C/T (1.000 Index) are paired up; the
                        handicap start calls for the D/SR to receive a 50-thousandths head start.  The
                        Indexes are inputted into the computer as 0.950 (D/SR) and 0.900 (C/T).  This
                        allows the 50-thousandths head start by the D/SR and the illumination of the win
                        light in the lane of the car to reach the finish line first.  At the finish line
                        (assuming the reaction times are identical), the D/SR runs 0.995 (-0.055) to a
                        0.955 (-0.045) for the C/T; the win light should be illuminated in the lane of the
                        D/SR with a margin of victory of 0.010.

                        Do I need to be from California to become a member of the Southern
                        California Competition Eliminator Club?

                        Absolutely not.  With the current state of slot car drag racing seeing a large gap
                        between the bracket racers and the heads-up racers, the SCCEC was created
                        specifically to bridge this gap.  While originating in Southern California, the
                        SCCEC looks to add members and member tracks from all over the country
                        and the world.  The SCCEC rules and Indexes can be freely used at your local
                        track for weekly, divisional or national events.  If you are promoting a Comp
                        Eliminator race, the SCCEC encourages you to send an E-mail to
                        info@socalcompeliminator.com so your race can be promoted and race
                        results/photos posted on our website.

                        I have another question that doesn’t appear here…what should I do?
                        Do not hesitate to send and an E-mail toinfo@socalcompeliminator.com to ask your
                        question.  


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